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Users Record with Rules/Users record without rules

By punisher
9/30/2016 2:31 pm
Ok first off let me say this may not be feasible to do or even that important to do.

Knowing that sooner or later we are going to have exact records for Users in each league that is Right and up to date i was thinking of why not make it where you can see a User's record with Rules and that same User record without Rules??

for example lets pretend for second here

blackflys 195 wins with rules 5 losses with rules 1 tie with rules
blackflys 5 wins without rules 195 losses without rules 20 ties without rules

I just think if this was possible we could learn few things .

1. the user might play better with rules
2. Same for without rules
3. that we know a team that has dominated in leagues we are in and their owner has done it with rules it would make us more willingly to make rules
4. Now if we knew that a player was dominating without rules we probably would know they draft well , they gameplan well outside of using rules , etc. which in a way we would probably would have more respect for them.
5 .Now if we knew who has rules or more likely to have rules we wouldnt call the a cheat or tank that we would know they are winning or losing with rules they have.
etc.

also i just thought i would throw this out there and see if anything will happen because of it though i was thinking about this for little awhile because i thought it would make sense to do and see people's record in each category.

thanks,
punisher

Re: Users Record with Rules/Users record without rules

By blackflys
9/30/2016 8:35 pm
The rules are a way to scout a team down to the last little bit. They can win you games and just as easily lose you games. How many teams get ran on in a 1-1-3 because they set up in nickel to guard the extra Wr . That's a case where rules can cost you
Determining a teams success with or without rules makes no sense because every game depends on you making those rule match your opponents plays. A team will not win a super bowl in a tough league without rules. leagues I would imagine would be 1, 2, 7, 9 , 10, 19, and even the less competing leagues the percentage of winning without em is less then 10 percent. A heavy league 0 percent

For having so many interesting situations and certain posts you take time to make you should have the best rules on the game.
Last edited at 9/30/2016 8:36 pm

Re: Users Record with Rules/Users record without rules

By raymattison21
9/30/2016 10:06 pm
blackflys wrote:
The rules are a way to scout a team down to the last little bit. They can win you games and just as easily lose you games. How many teams get ran on in a 1-1-3 because they set up in nickel to guard the extra Wr . That's a case where rules can cost you
Determining a teams success with or without rules makes no sense because every game depends on you making those rule match your opponents plays. A team will not win a super bowl in a tough league without rules. leagues I would imagine would be 1, 2, 7, 9 , 10, 19, and even the less competing leagues the percentage of winning without em is less then 10 percent. A heavy league 0 percent

For having so many interesting situations and certain posts you take time to make you should have the best rules on the game.


I took this as a challenge, because the fact lies in truth only not yet proven.

Re: Users Record with Rules/Users record without rules

By blackflys
9/30/2016 10:29 pm
So the challenge is? Sorry I want make sure I understand what your referring to.
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Re: Users Record with Rules/Users record without rules

By Ares
10/01/2016 1:09 am
blackflys wrote:
A team will not win a super bowl in a tough league without rules. leagues I would imagine would be 1, 2, 7, 9 , 10, 19, and even the less competing leagues the percentage of winning without em is less then 10 percent. A heavy league 0 percent


I won all my championships in every one of my leagues (which covers 3 of those listed) without the use of any rules except one, which was to go for it on fourth and inches in the first three quarters. So your 0% figure might be somewhat exaggerated.

Re: Users Record with Rules/Users record without rules

By blackflys
10/01/2016 9:48 am
It's a different game now and the owners you once played 8 seasons ago are a lot better. Also a competitive league usually has more then 5 stud owners and more like 12. So the playoffs are a dog fight, no blow outs hardly and a 16-0 team can fall real fast. I haven't seen your roster but obviously it was on another level to have done what it has. I know you might not think its different today but as you can see in LG 75 your grouped with 31 other owners and some of them have accomplished the same things you have. And it's common sense after 8 seasons of more experience the game has grown along with the coaches

Re: Users Record with Rules/Users record without rules

By blackflys
10/01/2016 9:54 am
I actually watched one of your super bowl games and you had to of had some rule in when you played against an all goaline style offense becuase you would come out in goaline defense regardless of the down you were matching there formations.

Re: Users Record with Rules/Users record without rules

By WarEagle
10/01/2016 10:06 am
blackflys wrote:
I actually watched one of your super bowl games and you had to of had some rule in when you played against an all goaline style offense becuase you would come out in goaline defense regardless of the down you were matching there formations.


I think the AI does this on it's own if you don't have rules, which is why a lot of people have rules to NOT be in goal line D in all situations just because the offense is (to protect against the passes).

Re: Users Record with Rules/Users record without rules

By blackflys
10/01/2016 10:17 am
No it's actually not like that at all. On 3rd and long you can make your defense line up in a nickel regardless of the formation actually no matter what formation he's in. It's not gonna change to a better defense that would stop the for,action on its own Or there would be no need for rules. Most teams set a simple rule to lineup in goaline
any time the offense does. Maybe it was different back then . I'm almost for sure rules had to be set for the play calling to be the way it was.

Re: Users Record with Rules/Users record without rules

By WarEagle
10/01/2016 10:22 am
blackflys wrote:
No it's actually not like that at all. On 3rd and long you can make your defense line up in a nickel regardless of the formation actually no matter what formation he's in. It's not gonna change to a better defense that would stop the for,action on its own Or there would be no need for rules. Most teams set a simple rule to lineup in goaline
any time the offense does. Maybe it was different back then . I'm almost for sure rules had to be set for the play calling to be the way it was.


I believe you are incorrect on this.

The way I understand what JDB has said before is that the AI chooses your defensive formation based on the personnel set that the offense is using (unless you have a rule). Meaning that if they come out in a goal line formation on 3rd and long, the AI will choose a defensive formation for you that matches up with the offenses goal line formation.