I hate playing games like this, where the owner (ATL-QWEX) isn't even trying to win.

It is very disappointing owners like this are allowed to retain ownership of their team(s). They should be immediately removed from all leagues they are in, and free up those teams for owners who might actually try.

This team went 0-16 the last two seasons, so yes, they've been a joke. However, it seems at least are kind of competing this season. Is there a way to see if someone has logged in?

Qwex

Team: Atlanta
Last Login: 05/10/2015 05:52PM
Seasons in league: 1
All-Time League Record: 1-5 (0.167)

I understand your complaint but gees its only been a couple of days since they last logged in.

Life happens ... I had a family emergency/funeral a while back. I didn't log in for a week. I would have been ticked off if my team were taken from me. Owners will be removed at the end of the season if they haven't logged in for a month I believe.

Besides, what good would it be to have a new owner at this point? The trade deadline is almost past and free agent pickings are slim. Not really much you could do anyways.

My issue isn't about when this owner last logged in. My issue is that the owner does not seem to be trying to win games.

Through 5 games, they have thrown 29 passes. In my game with them, they had 8 attempts, 6 of which were on the final drive.

This owner is in 3 leagues, so even though it shows he logged in on 5/10, that doesn't mean he visited the MFN 2 team.

And, what good would it be to have a new owner at this point? If no new human owner wanted the team, the AI would be a much better option.


Intentionally running a team like this is either acceptable or not. Period. If the owner is allowed to remain in the league, then it must be acceptable (to JDB).

+1

So if that win is what gets you in the playoffs I guess your opinion will change?

Also note that this is their first year with that team. So maybe you shouldn't throw the blame for the 0-16's at them?

I swear some people on here need to realize the spirit of the game is to be an owner ... not the commissioner. You run your team the way you want too. If that is tanking then so be it.

Maybe I should have my ownership pulled since I was their only win? Guess I tanked ...

I didn't say anything about the current record, or the record for year's prior to him taking over the team.

I didn't say anything about winning the game. I'm glad to have the victory.

My comment was about the seemingly obvious choice he has made to not even try to be competitive. Of course, that is my opinion. Maybe a nearly 100% run offense, even when down big, is considered to be a legitimate strategy for trying to win.

I didn't mean for this to turn into an argument. I'm actually surprised that any active owners feel differently about this than I do. I guess if this is fine with everyone else, I'll just enjoy the free victories when they come around. I would just rather play in leagues filled with active human owners who were trying their best, or AI owned teams.

And, now that I think about it some more, if he felt they wouldn't have a chance for a playoff spot this year, then I guess tanking is the best strategy if you want a chance to draft a player who can actually help improve your team quickly. I've seen others complain about tanking, and I guess I kind of agreed with them. However, based on the quality of the later first round picks, I have changed my mind.

My apologies for the argument. I guess I just don't take this as seriously as many do.

I just felt calling for their team to be pulled based on the competitiveness factor was a bit extreme.

Good luck the rest of the way ...

Soft tanking is lame but acceptable; ie playing younger players to develop them, trying out new plays to see if you can explore your playbook a little, etc, rather than fighting with every tool at hand to scrap your way into contention. Hard tanking, in my opinion, shouldn't be (ie running almost exclusively, despite having terrible results with it).

I think a great baseline for this is, 'would this be allowed in the NFL?' If you think any organization who actively and obviously were throwing games wouldn't get insanely penalized by the league, you're from a different dimension. If the Colts 'sucking for Luck' had just called kneel downs on offense and had their defenders plucking daisies all 16 matches, they'd have had their whole next draft class stripped from them and the entire coaching staff, GM, and probably even the owners forced out.

Bottom line, it isn't fun for anyone when others blatantly refuse to even pretend at being competitive.