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Re: Completed Trade: New York and Seattle

By lellow2011
6/22/2016 8:46 am
setherick wrote:
I've gotten good production with mediocre backs. I figure that I can do a lot better with an elite back.


Sure, when they aren't hurt :P

Re: Completed Trade: New York and Seattle

By setherick
6/22/2016 8:50 am
lellow2011 wrote:
setherick wrote:
I've gotten good production with mediocre backs. I figure that I can do a lot better with an elite back.


Sure, when they aren't hurt :P


That's a risk with any player considered an impact player. Your contingencies need contingencies in this game. ;)

Re: Completed Trade: New York and Seattle

By King of Bling
6/22/2016 12:41 pm
Wow, NY has 4 of the top 17 picks, 7 picks in the top 50, and 9 of the first 67 picks.
Looks like NY will be very much improved if they pick wisely.

Re: Completed Trade: New York and Seattle

By IHP3
6/22/2016 5:49 pm
We are in a total rebuild mode and to get the extra 2nd and move the 3rd up a year was key. Plus we only dropped a few spots in the first and to land the stud 2nd yr LB as well has us ecstatic :-)
Even the newspapers in the Big Apple were happy with this one!

Re: Completed Trade: New York and Seattle

By blackflys
6/23/2016 4:14 pm
setherick wrote:
lellow2011 wrote:
setherick wrote:
Nicko wrote:
Wow Seattle, that's a lot to give up... just to move up 3 spots in the 1st round.


With only two players worth drafting in the first round, it's a gamble that was worth doing.


LOL, there are quite a few impact players to be had in at least the top 5 if not the top 10 of this draft.




I can't disagree with this enough. With the current incarnation of the code, there are only a few game breaker positions that are worth drafting in the top 5:



1) Running back
2) Defensive end
3) Cornerback / Strong Safety

I didn't really need a DE, who I think will go with the third pick.

And there are no CB/SS combos worth staying at 5 for. I'm beginning to question the overall value of CB/SS. I burnt through a lot of picks in 19 to draft one of the best secondaries in the league, and I'm torn on how effective it is versus other leagues I play in with average secondaries.

Currently, a great RB will destroy most opponents because of how overpowered break tackle is and a great DE will destroy most offensive lines. All other positions can be filled by any average Joe.

Why can you ignore the other positions? QBs are hamstrung by the code, so if you can find a QB with one or two excellent attributes, then he'll be as good as the best overall QB in the league. WRs only need a few key attributes to be effective. LBs are underpowered in the code so a LB with good SP, run defense, and tackling is going to be just as good as a 95+ LB. And DTs got seriously nerfed when JDB changed how their speed got generated. Now, all DTs are basically space eaters, so there is not a lot of difference between your elite DTs and your mid-round DTs with good ST, AC, and decent run/pass defense.

So back to your point. You're completely wrong about impact players in the top 5. There are a lot of great players on paper, but will never live up to their "potential" because of code.


Question now is how many years is a rb an elite player? Almost every position you named off they are the rating they start with for 6-10 seasons. I haven't had a RB who dident drastically lose his explosiveness within 4 seasons. They might stay 100"speed 100 carry, but they lose it unseen. And you being the one owner who pics up Rbs who produce so well from rounds 3-6 surprising to see you make this for a RB . After all that said not looking forward to having to play whatever one you get in your style offense.

Re: Completed Trade: New York and Seattle

By setherick
6/23/2016 5:48 pm
blackflys wrote:
After all that said not looking forward to having to play whatever one you get in your style offense.


I think you'll particularly like what I'm scheming up for him and the FA back I picked up.

Re: Completed Trade: New York and Seattle

By lellow2011
6/23/2016 6:23 pm
Black I have noticed as well that it seems running backs just aren't as explosive as they age even if all their physical attributes are the same.

Re: Completed Trade: New York and Seattle

By setherick
6/23/2016 6:24 pm
lellow2011 wrote:
Black I have noticed as well that it seems running backs just aren't as explosive as they age even if all their physical attributes are the same.


I have not seen this problem. My backs don't tend to get a lot of carries during a season though.

Re: Completed Trade: New York and Seattle

By IHP3
6/23/2016 6:25 pm
So it appears the debate is not if the RB will kill it, just for how long? I hated losing a Barry Sanders but I couldn't say no to the offer

Re: Completed Trade: New York and Seattle

By lellow2011
6/23/2016 6:25 pm
setherick wrote:
lellow2011 wrote:
Black I have noticed as well that it seems running backs just aren't as explosive as they age even if all their physical attributes are the same.


I have not seen this problem. My backs don't tend to get a lot of carries during a season though.


The amount of carries they get seems to have little to no effect on this, for example my team in Fake Pigskin where I haven't asked a whole lot of my RBs during the regular season.