There's a distinction between calling someone a cheater and pointing out unethical behavior that exploits a possible loophole in a flawed trade balancer.

Unethical? Even though the OP clearly states the guy was happy with the trade. We've all made trades that perhaps we'd like to change in hindsight, but you guys are too much!

I've kinda kept out of this but i guess i'll add my 2 cents. Before the last season i joined the league and it was my first team on MFN and i was hit with a bunch of similar offers from King and it was obvious that he was banking on me finishing low and him high. The thing is i never though he was cheating when he did it, just using strategy. I think King is a good guy and have asked him for advice as i have with others on here. I don't think he's a cheater, but i totally understand why others might be bummed about it. It may be time to move on and not create a toxic atmosphere in a very entertaining league. I know i'm new so i don't want to act like i know all the dynamics but i just thought i'd add some light from another newby that didn't trade my picks. :)

toxic atmosphere ?...
...that is the stink from
the Chicago-Pitts trades ...
that will not go away

Thanks for your input. Could you and King refrain from calling names and talk about the issues I'm trying to discuss? Or is that the only defense you have? Trying to intimidate through pm's or telling someone to stfu is pretty telling about the quality of the people involved.

Would you like to talk about integrity?
This type of trade... Would have to enable cheat codes in Madden or any other football game to go through. Everyone here knows that.

Here pale with fear he doth premeditate
The dangers of his loathsome enterprise,
And in his inward mind he doth debate
What following sorrow may on this arise:
Then looking scornfully, he doth despise
His naked armour of still-slaughter'd lust,
And justly thus controls his thoughts unjust:

well I took this part of your message as you want to move on and leave this league because of other people.

This is just my opinion you shouldn't leave leagues because of other people because in a way I guess you could make a case to leave like every league there is because of people .

you shouldn't let people effect you in that way. I think as long as you are having fun in the leagues you are in and can compete in the leagues you are in then why not stay??

because maybe if you did leave you might regret it later for leaving that league .

like for me I regret leaving Custom 10 in only that the matter I left it , probably screwing over people who are going to take that team I left and really if i didn't learn anything that maybe I shouldn't do or what not then most likely I will repeat my mistake in that league in another league (hopefully I wont) .

Now if I left that league because I wasn't having fun or wasn't compete in my thinking then yes I would like to think I wouldn't regret or have any regrets on leaving.


Now of course if you are saying Pittsburgh owner or Chicago owner should leave this league then really all I can say is that is up to them in the same manner if they are having fun and can compete in this league why leave and if the ADMIN figures they should leave because they will be continued to be picked on then that is up to them and him not anyone of us and we should all act accordingly about it.

Just like if the ADMIN had no problem with the trade then really you all need to let it go and act accordingly about it if the admin found no problem with it.

i was just referring to moving on from this incident more than anything. I don't want to leave, i don't want King or War to leave. it's draft time!